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The Justice Conversation podcast series brings together people who discuss holistic justice from different perspectives. The hosts are Philipos Hailemichael and Kim Vanderheiden.

Philipos is a resident of the Bay Area in California whose mother tongue language is Tigrinya. His perspective on this project includes the Tigrinya culture and norms where I grew up.
For our listeners information – Tigrinya (ትግርኛ) is of the Afroasiatic language family. It is commonly spoken in Eritrea and in northern Ethiopia’s Tigray Region.

Kim is from the United States. She started the Justice Conversation website to contribute to a shift in cultural understanding from punitive to relationship-centered justice.

We welcome others to join and share in our conversation.


EP-004 : The Justice System within the Self – Part 2

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TRANSCRIPT Kim In our last episode, we began by talking about how we live under many different justice systems- through family, school, work, and society, and then Philipos, you brought up how there’s also a justice system within the self, and reminded us of your understanding of justice as being an unlocking and opening up. Philipos Yes, and that brought up your Opening the Door artwork, and we began talking about each of the pieces from the perspective of the justice system within the self. The symbols in the artwork gave us a lot of complex ideas to reflect on, and so we decided to pause, and continue talking about the rest of the work in Part 2. Let’s pick up where we left off and look at the next artwork. This one with the glasses…What is its name? Kim This one is The Caller, Philipos The Caller. Good. Right… Continue reading

EP-003 : The Justice System within the Self – Part I

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TRANSCRIPT: Philipos In Today’s podcast, we’ll begin a series of conversations on our different justice systems, and what role love and opening up plays in them. So, we have how many examples? Like 10? Yeah. Kim Well, first of all, usually, if you say “justice system,” a listener thinks of something run by the government. So, it might be a combination of the municipal courts, the police officers, the jails, the state-run prison system, and including all the lawyers and court staff, and then on into the federal justice system. I think usually when people say or hear the phrase “justice system” they’re thinking of that formal governmental system. When I began the artwork on justice, I started to rethink what a justice system really was, and to realize that the governmental system is just one justice system, but we actually live by a lot of different justice systems in… Continue reading

EP-002 : Interdependence

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TRANSCRIPT:  Kim In this episode, we’ll be talking about how interdependence relates to justice.  Philipos I will start today’s justice conversation with a question – Is justice served among interdependent, dependent, or independent parties? It is self-evident to not make a dependent person, for example, children, accountable or responsible to certain aspects of the rule of law due to their lack of agency which results from their young age.  Independence is based on the idea that you do have agency: in other words, the ability to make your own decisions and take your own actions. So, from this perspective, consequences should be borne because you have that agency. But I question what it means to be independent, and I have difficulty seeing it in reality. When I look at what is happening in ordinary life, I witness interdependence more than independence. Kim What is it that you see in reality that… Continue reading

What Is Justice Conversation?

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TRANSCRIPT:  Kim Welcome to Justice Conversation. This podcast series brings together people who discuss holistic justice from different perspectives.  PhiliposHi, my name is Philipos Hailemichael, and I am a resident of the Bay Area in California. My mother tongue language is Tigrinya. Most of the perspective I share on this project will come from the Tigrinya culture and norms where I grew up, For our listeners information – Tigrinya (ትግርኛ) is of the Afroasiatic language family. It is commonly spoken in Eritrea and in northern Ethiopia’s Tigray Region. KimI’m Kim, and I’m from the United States. I started the Justice Conversation website to contribute to a shift in cultural understanding from punitive to relationship-centered justice.  PhiliposWe welcome others to join and share in our conversation.  KimFor our first topic, we would like to answer the question, What is Justice Conversation? Philipos, what does that mean for you?  PhiliposFor me, I want… Continue reading